Chapter One

Communication takes many forms and velocities, doesn’t it? In these uncertain months encased, as they still are, in an era of lightning speed, I find myself thinking about letters sent by ship centuries ago, imagining the eagerly awaited carefully-penned responses arriving many months later. Amidst the disruption, social distancing, uneven impacts and severity of the global pandemic — and Firelei Báez right in the heart of New York – we asked art historian, curator, and professor C. Ondine Chavoya, a member of the 2020 Herb Alpert Award Visual Arts panel, if he might re-read Firelei Báez’ Herb Alpert Award application, and, with his knowledge of her work, offer up some questions he was curious about. In lieu of a rat-a-tat-tat back-and-forth email exchange, Firelei received his attentive enquiries en toto and was able to answer them with considered reflectiveness. Slow food for nourishing thought.

— Irene Borger, editor and director, Herb Alpert Award in the Arts

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C. Ondine Chavoya:
You use the phrase ‘subversive beauty’ in the Bloodlines exhibition catalogue (2015) to describe one of the themes you explore in your art, especially through the imagery and history associated with the tignon, a style of headdress that women of color in New Orleans had to wear by law during the 18th century. How have you continued to explore this concept in your work? How does the idea of subversive beauty inform or operate across different bodies of work? How might the concept of subversive beauty function in terms of subject matter, style, technique, and/or the work’s engagement of the viewer?
 

Firelei Báez: 

As an undergrad I first read Octavia Butler’s sci fi novel Kindred, where a black woman is pulled from the present back to nineteenth century antebellum south whenever her young white ancestor was in peril. The phrase “beyond unalterable limitations” came to mind. Two things became clear to me since then: first, the power of a creative mind to bring clarity to—and make present—such a traumatic past, and second, the magnitude and bond needed to survive as a people despite and beyond such irreparable limitations.

Beauty, as I understand it, is a mutable thing. Something that carries remnants of a previous definition but in its evolution shows us a bit of what we have been missing. In this sense my works are multivalent in that they seduce you with presumptions of the known, and conscript you as a co-conspirator in breaking down the very structures that tried to eradicate us in the past.

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OC:
One thing you wrote in your application for the Herb Alpert Award that stuck with me (and there are many, but I’d like to start with this one) is that “clarity comes with being in the margin.” Would you please extrapolate on this idea? How does this come into play or inform your art and art making?
FB:

In a literal sense this has always been the case. It might be easier to understand this in terms of major shifts of scientific awareness: gravity, the curve of the earth, the multiverse, the relativity of time. These are things that need some distance, some self- awareness untethered from singular identity to be fully understood. The same applies in every small moment of how we navigate throughout the day: what we eat, who we consider family, how we get from point A to B, all have such broad interconnected effects on the world at large. Navigating the world from the margin is a gift of sight, of separation without division that gives better glimpses of the things beyond the singular self. As an artist I listen closely to the voices of elders before me, theorists, aunties, the untold histories nestled in by bedtime story tellers who constantly reiterate the notion of de-centered clarity.

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OC:
In recent years, you have created several public artworks in locations across New York City and internationally, such as the Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture (2018), the Modern Window at MoMA (2018-19), 2018 Berlin Biennale, the Subway Station at 163 St.-Amsterdam Ave. (2018), and the High Line (2019-2020). You also have a new public installation for the ICA Boston Watershed scheduled to open in 2020 that re-imagines the ruins of the Sans-Souci Palace in Milot, Haiti. And your proposal for the Shirley Chisholm monument in Brooklyn’s Prospect Park was selected as one of the finalists.
How do you approach or conceptualize these public projects? And how might this differ from your studio-based productions for gallery or museum exhibition? I am also interested in your movement across different media in the projects, say from mural-sized paintings for the Joy Out of Fire installation at the Schomburg Center to the large-scale, multi-media installations. How do you think about site-specificity or site-responsiveness? Do you approach the temporary or ephemeral projects (such as the Berlin or High Line pieces) differently than the more permanent installations (such as the mosaic Ciguapa Antellana created for the MTA Arts & Design program)?
FB:

Ideally, all my works would be sensate, felt through the body as much as through the mind. This is much easier done in large-scale sculptural installations. When invited to make each public artwork, I do extensive research on each site so that my work is responsive to it. These large-scale works are collaborative efforts that start as a sketch in the studio but usually require architectural plans as well as building and scenic crews to be realized. My studio works tend to be more introspective and poetic. In these I am free to connect geographies, histories and bodies more freely than in the public sculptural works.

 

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OC:
I was looking through the 2019 exhibition catalogue for Coffee, Rhum, Sugar & Gold: A Postcolonial Paradox held at the Museum of the African Diaspora that prominently featured 3 of your paintings. In How to slip out of your body quietly (2018), a collection of bare-foot figures—some sprouting high heels from their feet—appear as recombinant or hybridized figures merging human, animal, and plant elements. Are these Ciguapas, which you have described as models for decolonial resistance? Palm trees appear to emerge from the figures but are also part of the backdrop and the environment. The palm is a recurrent motif in your work. What is its meaning(s) in this piece and in others?
 
FB:

The Ciguapa Series began after I graduated from Cooper Union in 2004, at a point where I felt I had the freedom to return to figuration. I have always been struck by, and made more aware of as a little kid trying to learn English, the gendering of Romance languages, where the feminine is always conceptualized as passive i.e. silla/chair, luna/moon, montaña/mountain—a feminine ideal lover patiently waits to be activated. On the school bus in Miami I passed a city sign that had a quote by José Martí that said “las palmas son novias que esperan,” (the palms are waiting brides). As a teenager, this placid ideal seemed like the antithesis of the dynamic, self-sufficient women I was raised and surrounded by. The folktales I was told as a child all countered this ideal as well; specifically that of the ciguapa, a female trickster story from my birthplace Hispaniola, which was really generative to the conceptualizing of the Ciguapa Series. She is described as a feminine creature/archetype from nature/the wilderness. In her stories, she is a total badass, virtually untraceable because of her backwards legs, able to use her power for good or evil, to break generational karmic loads like those Junot Díaz suggests in The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao. The initial artworks started out as smaller test-card-like silhouettes that then became more elaborate, larger forms. Both were meant to act as open signifiers upon which viewers could project their own meaning. The figure can either be a fierce, elusive creature or a passive houseplant gathering dust in a corner. For me, they acted as visual/linguistic antonyms, to showcase the psychological and even metaphysical defenses people before me had built against linguistic and cultural invasions. These works were propositions, meant to create alternate pasts and potential futures, questioning history and culture in order to provide a space for reassessing the present in ways similar to Octavia Butler’s science fiction.

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Ciguapa Antellana, me llamo sueño de la madrugada (who more sci-fi than us), 2018. Photo: Osheen Harruthoonyan
Courtesy of the artist and James Cohan, New York. Glass mosaic Permanent commission: MTA Arts & Design, 163 St-Amsterdam Av Station, Washington Heights, New York, NY Commissioned by Metropolitan Transportation Authority Arts & Design.

Tignon for Ayda Weddo (or that which a center can not hold), 2019
Courtesy of the artist and James Cohan, New York. Acrylic and oil on archival printed canvas 91 1/2 x 114 1/4 in 232.4 x 290.2 cm Photo: Phoebe d’Heurle
 
Sans-Souci (This threshold between a dematerialized and a historicized body), 2015
Courtesy of the artist and James Cohan, New York. Acrylic and ink on linen 108 x 74 inches

""As an artist I listen closely to the voices of elders before me, theorists, aunties, the untold histories nestled in by bedtime story tellers who constantly reiterate the notion of decentered clarity.""

-Firelei Báez


19.604692°N 72.218596°W, 2019
Courtesy of the artist and James Cohan, New York. Concrete panels, paint, wood 144 x 84 x 118 in 365.8 x 213.4 x 299.7 cm Installation view: En Plein Air, High Line Art, April 2019 ? March 2020 Photo by Timothy Schenck
 
19.604692°N 72.218596°W, 2019
Courtesy of the artist and James Cohan, New York. Concrete panels, paint, wood 144 x 84 x 118 in 365.8 x 213.4 x 299.7 cm Installation view: En Plein Air, High Line Art, April 2019 ? March 2020 Photo by Timothy Schenck
 
19° 36' 16.89" N, 72° 13'6.95" W) / (52.4042°N,13.0385° E, 2018
Courtesy of the artist and James Cohan, New York. Acrylic, sheetrock, steel 236 x 354 in 599.4 x 899.2 cm Installation view: 10th Berlin Biennale, Akademie der Ku?nste (Hanseatenweg), Berlin, June 9 - September 9, 2018 Photo: Timo Ohler
 
19° 36' 16.89" N, 72° 13'6.95" W) / (52.4042°N,13.0385° E, 2018
Courtesy of the artist and James Cohan, New York. Acrylic, sheetrock, steel 236 x 354 in 599.4 x 899.2 cm Installation view: 10th Berlin Biennale, Akademie der Ku?nste (Hanseatenweg), Berlin, June 9 - September 9, 2018 Photo: Timo Ohler

""…I grew up hearing stories of Lilith-like wild women from the forest, Ciguapas, told to me as a warning: you can’t be too wild, too much of nature, don't be too independent. As a kid I’d think, ‘There's so much freedom in that, why would I not want to be that? Why would I not want to be untraceable and fearless?""

-Firelei Báez


 

Ciguapa Antellana, me llamo sueño de la madrugada (who more sci-fi than us), 2018. Photo: Osheen Harruthoonyan.
Courtesy of the artist and James Cohan, New York. Glass mosaic Permanent commission: MTA Arts & Design, 163 St-Amsterdam Av Station, Washington Heights, New York, NY Commissioned by Metropolitan Transportation Authority Arts & Design.